[03:24] *** Turingi left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:40] *** Turingi joined #setiquest. [15:16] *** sigblips joined #setiquest. [17:52] *** lnigra joined #setiquest. [17:56] *** jrseti_ joined #setiquest. [18:00] Hello all [18:00] Hi jrseti [18:00] See http://setiquest.org/forum/topic/community-meeting-2013-04-02 [18:00] Greetings Earthlings. [18:00] what about me, sig? [18:01] What planet are you from? [18:01] Can't be pronounced by aliens [18:01] Chicago [18:02] hehe [18:02] I need to leave again at 11:30 [18:02] So do I actually. [18:02] Sigblips: please add to the agenda [18:02] 2) Any progress talking to Jill about getting a copy of Alien Encounters? [18:03] That's it for me. [18:03] ok, I'll go... [18:04] Homing in on a new adaptive priority based subject service system for live data. In testing now. I hope to get as low as two users, but that may not be practical... [18:04] won't know until I finish testing. [18:05] Sorting out final effort to finish the stuff I promised before moving it to maintenance mode. [18:05] The toughest and most important is a followups display for users to view the ones they participated in. [18:06] I have not been paying attention to the followups. How is that going? [18:06] A problem arose late last week: Somehow SonATA is associating a series of what should be independent followup chains with eachother... [18:07] As a result we "rang the green phone" with a 10 stage followup at the ATA. At SETIlive is was a series of 1 to 2 stage followups that appear to have malformed message info. [18:08] We've been getting many followups generated and the algorithm to keep related followup groups separate when a lot are being generated isn't working apparently. [18:09] We send followup requests every day now and almost exclusively in late evening US Central time when there are 5 to 10 people online. [18:09] Consistently. [18:09] Have you done any measuring of the quality of the classifications that caused the followup? [18:09] I should watch some come in and see what is happening on our side [18:10] We have not [18:11] jrseti, probably best to wait until I can sort out what we're doing wrong. We have followup ids that are duplicated when they shouldn't be, so that's almost certainly the reason... [18:11] So, let me sort things out at this end and then we'll see if SonATA is (as I expect) simply responding as it should. [18:12] OK [18:12] How has the number of active SETI Live users changed now that the Science Channel's Alien month is over? [18:12] sigblips - the quality of the classifications hasn't been studied yet. I have to get some basic infrastructure working properly and then that would be the next thing on the list which will lead to the user profile followups tab display. [18:13] I'm afraid I haven't done my homework there yet. I'll get to that this week I believe. A full look at Feb March and first part of April to see the impact on google analytics. [18:15] Are people sticking around is what I was wondering. [18:15] Actually, a user profile page with just a display of followups they've classified like the favourites page is very easy, but I'm not sure how useful it would be without seeing the markings. Still, we may put that out there initially to have something for users to see. [18:16] sigblips, I'm wondering that too. I'll actually get a feel for it this week with the number of followups generated. [18:17] That followup tab would nice, especially if it was public (like the collections are). [18:17] One other important thing I promised is on the list as well: a final followup message when we end the chain as requested by Jane. [18:19] Well, the tab initially would be just on a user's profile page showing just the ones they were involved in. Another public page where you could browse followups is possibility and makes sense, but not on the top of the list of course. [18:20] That's all I've got. [18:20] Thanks [18:21] 2) Any progress talking to Jill about getting a copy of Alien Encounters? [18:21] She said she did not have any DVDs of the show. [18:21] Hmmm maybe you could implement the followup tagging just as a new collection folder called "followups" ? [18:22] Is Jill going to ask them? [18:22] sigblips, thanks for the suggestion. Might be something in that. [18:23] didnt say [18:23] y [18:23] The followups would be automatically added ... [18:24] Strange - I did not press "y" [18:24] Sure you did. You just don't remember. (: [18:25] *** dk3232 joined #setiquest. [18:25] Or maybe you've got that new Java exploit going around. [18:25] hello [18:25] Yes, but with well over a thousand followups and growing, it won't be quite that simple. Also, providing some context for each followup (others in the chain, markings, final group signal, etc.) is not part of a collection's functionality. [18:25] dk3232: hello [18:25] jrseti_: i finally got all the files downloaded [18:26] great. Did you put them all back together into one file? [18:26] Hello dk3232. You can catch up on what you've missed here http://irc.sigblips.com/setiQuest/2013/setiquest.04-02-2013.log [18:26] in a zip? or iso? [18:27] it is a zip, that will unzip into an iso [18:27] well l combined them using the copy command in the windows cmd [18:28] Thanks folks. gotta go. cya next week! [18:28] *** lnigra left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:28] it totalled 2.80 GB [18:29] then when I tried to open it, it said the compressed zip file is invalid [18:29] Should be a zip file that is 3011237097 bytes [18:30] You also have to make sure you have them all. 29 files named x00 through x28 [18:30] 3,011,237,135 bytes [18:30] Maybe you put the partial files together in the wrong order. [18:30] Each is 104857600 bytes, except x28 is 75224297 bytes [18:31] Check the checksum. [18:32] do you think it might be that we have different file systems? [18:32] "cksum x28" = 1777078808 [18:34] cksum x* [18:34] 4052529145 104857600 x00 [18:34] 3092380435 104857600 x01 [18:34] 1559748114 104857600 x02 [18:34] 647075337 104857600 x03 [18:34] 3205623463 104857600 x04 [18:34] 529064597 104857600 x05 [18:34] 2835613073 104857600 x06 [18:34] 4045607045 104857600 x07 [18:34] 172284975 104857600 x08 [18:34] 1042181318 104857600 x09 [18:34] 3275461899 104857600 x10 [18:34] 220840793 104857600 x11 [18:34] 1030794389 104857600 x12 [18:34] 2775109381 104857600 x13 [18:34] 2475958799 104857600 x14 [18:34] 2440439073 104857600 x15 [18:34] 682479561 104857600 x16 [18:34] 1546776040 104857600 x17 [18:34] 1222149221 104857600 x18 [18:34] 1492803283 104857600 x19 [18:34] 1488315213 104857600 x20 [18:34] 709413399 104857600 x21 [18:34] 1189558764 104857600 x22 [18:34] 1626585940 104857600 x23 [18:34] 2769468205 104857600 x24 [18:35] 2082134773 104857600 x25 [18:35] 3276868877 104857600 x26 [18:35] 32164248 104857600 x27 [18:35] 1777078808 75224297 x28 [18:35] All - Sorry I must leave now. Can't be avoided [18:35] dk3232: check the file sizes and checksums [18:36] bye! [18:36] *** jrseti_ left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:36] Is cksum a Mac only program? On Linux sum and md5sum are more common. [18:36] i am on windows [18:37] Just checked and cksum is on a CentOS machine of mine. [18:38] You probably shouldn't have a problem finding it then. [18:39] on windows? [18:41] I don't know. I don't have Windows. [18:44] it should no be this hard just to get a distro running lol [18:46] i do have the right size [18:52] I have no idea. You'll have to ask jrseti. [18:58] ok [00:00] --- Wed Apr 3 2013